A Black Widow scene has some fans up in arms, and it's a perfect storm of both Whedon's and Marvel's worst tendencies.
Shouldn't we be just as accepting of someone's choice to have children as we want them to be about our choice to not have children?New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be castDiscussion and links of interest to childfree individuals. The Red Room, also known as the Black Widow Program, is a top-secret Soviet brainwashing and training program. Why? Movies Black Widow is Sterile because as she tells Banner when they are at Hawkeyes house in Age of Ultron… it’s part of the Graduation ceremony. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts By Chancellor Agard It's a lot deeper than "oop no babies for you! Offers may be subject to change without notice. Stop equating people's fertility with their entire identities.The point is that it is forced and not her choice, which is never okay. I just knew that sorcerers are steril and assumed it has something to do with magic, but in the show it was framed that Yennefer sacrificed her fertility in order to be beautiful so it would enhance her chances in the political fields.Yeah, I kind of hate that the "and she can NEVER BE A MOTHERRRR" trope is so popular as a way to try to make something dramatic. The loss of choice is the reason something like that is horrifying.I understand everyone saying it’s the fact that it was forced that matters, but I feel like “can’t have kids” is used too often to add a “tragic” element to female characters.I don’t really watch the Marvel movies, but this thread immediately made me think of The Witcher, where Yennefer and the other sorceresses become infertile as a “price” for practicing magic— and of course, it’s a huge deal to her.Whenever this trope is used it just seems like lazy, surface-level writing of women to me. Devastating.”I don’t really watch the Marvel movies, but this thread immediately made me think of The Witcher, where Yennefer and the other sorceresses become infertile as a “price” for practicing magic— and of course, it’s a huge deal to her.I though it was the „price“ for getting beautiful not for practicing magic?
Entertainment Weekly is a registered trademark of Meredith Corporation All Rights Reserved. "I don't want kids but I don't want to be sterilized. "The ceremony is necessary, for you to take your place in the world." I'm not sure how many people are familiar with the Black Widow movie coming out but there is a scene where she is sterilized and it's made to be this big scary thing. Home Even if we think Whedon literally meant that her sterilization … Not having kids is not some big punishment. The writers didn't need to make the scene like this.
"Exactly." By Devan Coggan “Hmm, how can we make the audience feel bad for this woman? ―Madame B. and Natasha Romanoff.
March 10, 2020 at 02:00 PM EDT By Chancellor Agard When she was done training in the Red Room they sterilized them so there would never be anything more important than a mission. The site may not work properly if you don't If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit Press J to jump to the feed. Surely you can’t have missed that as the reason for it being traumatic?The point is that they didn't have to write her character as wanting kids.
By "We have no place in the world." The program takes young women and turns them into the world's deadliest and most elite assassins.
As for the scene – in which Natasha opens up about her forced sterilization and inability to have children – she needs a little film magic to shoot it. Black Widow and hulk in Age of Ultron This Ultron moment with Mark Ruffalo’s Bruce Banner is a rare moment of vulnerability for Nat. Maybe she would have chosen differently for herself. Not having kids is not some big punishment. I don't want to have my body changed; I can choose to avoid pregnancy in other ways. For many many people, not me or my wife, having children is something they want. DISCUSSION. Why?
I know, she can’t have children!